NCC Group: Cyber Security Center Stage in Maritime
Brendan Saunders of NCC Group discusses the numerous cyber security challenges facing the maritime industry, on the ship, shore and throughout the logistics chain.
MR: This is Greg Trauthwein. I’m the editor of Maritime Reporter and Engineering News. We’re here with Maritime Reporter TV at the SHIPPINGInsight 2016. We’re with Brendan Saunders of NCC Group. Brendan, thanks very much for joining us.
Brendan Saunders: Thank you for letting me join and talk to you.
MR: Absolutely. Brendan, we just had a brief discussion on NCC Group. Could you share with our viewers just a little background on who NCC Group is?
Brendan Saunders: Sure. NCC Group is the world’s largest cyber security consultancy — head office in the U.K. in Manchester. I work out of our London office. We’ve got sites all
MR: I believe you have some maritime experience, as well. Can you give me your personal maritime experience?
Brendan Saunders: Of course. I’m actually a reserve officer in the Royal Navy in the U.K, so I’ve got quite a lot of experience working with vessel operators, looking at how to secure themselves from a range of different threats, not just cyber security but counter piracy maritime, security, as well. And that’s something that I do on a regular basis.
MR: Well, as you know, the maritime industry is a unique industry. And I would imagine that it is so from the cyber security aspect, as well. Can you tell us some differences — or key differences — you see in the maritime world versus land-based cyber security?
Brendan Saunders: I think, from my perspective, the key thing that’s made the real difference with maritime cyber security is that everything is an awfully long way behind what we’ve seen in most other industries around the world. And that comes because ships have only recently started to become these floating, connected platforms in the way that we’re starting to see today. If you go back five years or so, you didn’t really see the connectivity of ships in the way that we have now. Now with fleet broadband, with
MR: That’s excellent. We talk about attitudes in the maritime industry quite often, and in many different respects. And I would
Brendan Saunders: I think the attitude’s already starting to change. I think when you look at a lot of people who’ve been working the maritime industry for a long time, ships masters are not people who come in as ships masters — they’re people who have trained from, and in a lot of cases a very young
MR: Okay. And I would assume your participation here in Stamford at SHIPPINGInsight is part of the
Brendan Saunders: Absolutely. I think from our point of view, the problem really needs to be solved by two key sets of people: it’s the vessel operators and the OEMs, the original equipment manufacturers. What I really want to give as a takeaway to the vessel operators is about network segregation: it’s about understanding what kit you have on your bridge, what kit you have over the rest of your ship. And my research really gives us four key zones on a ship in terms of technology.
MR: Well, if you blog, we have Maritime Logistics Professional and you need to blog for us because we’re always looking for good content. Again, this is Greg Trauthwein with Maritime Reporter TV. Brendan, thank you very much for your time.
Brendan Saunders: Thank you very much.